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Impossible Gospel of Mormonism As Taught In General Conference

Keith Walker of Evidence Ministries explains what Mormon General Authorities teach about the Impossible Gospel of Mormonism in General Conference. This conference is held every six months and is expected to be received by faithful Latter-day Saints as “The Words of the Lord” spoken through prophets, seers and revelators. Conference addresses are considered continuing revelation and are thought to be on par with Mormon Scripture. The “Words of the Lord” spoken in General Conference are binding upon all Mormons.

On a side-note, I’m back from Utah.  The trip was awesome and from what I understand, there were six professions of faith in Christ. As you have no doubt noticed, I have not been keeping up with the blog. After Manti, there is always a need to recharge and reconnect with my family. I was hoping to put up a short report on the trip, but was buried by a number of things that required my attention, some personal and some ministry related. I am still digging myself out from a mountain of… stuff. Summer times are always busy for us so I hope to get back on track this week.

Thanks for your understanding.

“Mormon Works vs. Evangelical Grace? Not So Fast” A Christian Response to Jana Riess

Christianity Today recently did a story titled, “What Can Christians Learn From the Surge in Mormon Youth Missionaries?” Three Christian experts, one of whom, is a former Mormon, were chosen to weigh in on how we as Christians can learn from how the LDS Church puts their youth to work in ministry. Each of the experts noted that one of the primary reasons for the willingness of Mormon youth to serve on missions is because of the work-based theology of Mormonism. The Christianity Today article to date has 70 comments, most of which are favorable to Mormonism. Read More …

Manti Mission Trip 2013

Keith and David talking about Mormonism, how to know truth and the gospel.

Our annual mission trip to Manti, Utah is coming soon. We begin training and preparing our Manti Mission Team Thursday, May 2nd. Training is also open to Christians who want to learn more about Mormonism and how to witness to them. You do not have to go on the mission trip in order to take advantage of this training. We will conduct seven weekly training sessions starting on Thursday, May 2 and will go through Thursday, June 13. The meetings we be at Community Bible Church and alternating between rooms P-7A (portable) and room 134 from 6:45 to 8:30 PM. Because we are meeting in two different rooms, please double check which location we will be meeting at each week. The portables are behind the building. Childcare is available with advance notice.
Our class schedule is as follows.

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A Christian Response to “Drops of Awesome”

Every other Thursday night our ministry conducts an ex-Mormon Bible study. At this last meeting one of the former Mormons gave me a print out of a post from a Mormon blog. It is titled, “Drops of Awesome” and can be read here.

It is about how a Mormon Mom does a good deed and then immediately beats herself up for all of the other times she has neglected to do the right thing. She comes up with the idea of mentally putting “drops of awesome” into a bucket as a way to help her remember the good things and not focus on the bad. The first half of the blog is an encouragement to those who are continually faced with their own inadequacies. I understand why she wrote it, why this issue is so important to her and why she wanted to share her thoughts with other Latter–day Saints. Mormonism certainly stirs up these kinds of emotions with members who are honest about their sin and take seriously the Mormon idea of repentance.

That is where the focus of the blog post changes. The writer of the blog tells a story of teaching this principle to her class of teenage girls while at Church. She writes,

As an object lesson when I was teaching this to the teenage girls at church, I gave them each a small dropper and I put a 2-quart bowl on the table. I told them that throughout the lesson they would get the chance to put drops in the bucket for every Drop of Awesome they could think of that they’d done. I promised them that we would fill the bowl to overflowing by the end of the lesson.

With about 5 minutes to go, we had barely begun to fill the bowl and the girls were looking around at each other nervously. The promised overflow did not look likely. Were they not awesome enough?

At that point, I pulled out a large pitcher labeled ATONEMENT and poured water into the glass bowl until it was spilling out all over the table and the towel the bowl was resting on. The class went silent.

When we are in a relationship with Christ, striving as God’s sons and daughters to do His will, He pours more into our buckets than we can ever hope to imagine. He can fill us to overflowing with peace, with joy, with perfection, with Awesome.”

That is a very powerful object lesson, but unfortunately it isn’t true on two counts. One, it certainly isn’t Biblical and two, it isn’t even accurate according to what Mormonism teaches in its official teaching manuals. Our Mormon blogger forgot one very important principle in Mormonism. The atonement of Christ is not applicable unless and until a person repents.

The Book of Mormon states, “Therefore, according to justice, the plan of redemption could not be brought about, only on conditions of repentance of men in this probationary state, yea, this preparatory state; for except it were for these conditions, mercy could not take effect except it should destroy the work of justice. Now the work of justice could not be destroyed; if so, God would cease to be God.” (Alma 42:13)

The key phrases in this passage being, “only on conditions of repentance… for except it were for these conditions,mercy could not take effect.” (emphasis added).

This idea is repeated in a Mormon Church manual with which our Mormon blogger should be familiar. The Latter-day Saint Woman: Basic Manual for Women, Part A, states in chapter two, “Through repentance we can become free from the burden of sin. Because of the great love Jesus Christ has for us, He suffered, bled, and died for our sins so that we will not have to suffer fully ourselves if we repent. (See Gospel Principles chapter 12, “The Atonement.”)

•Display visual 2-c, “Christ atoned for our sins on the condition that we will repent.”

When you go to the above mentioned reference to Gospel Principles we find the following.

“President Boyd K. Packer of the Council of the Twelve gave the following illustration to show how Christ’s Atonement makes it possible to be saved from sin if we do our part (emphasis in the original).

If we do our part? What is that all about? For those of you who may be unfamiliar with the Mormon concept of repentance, the Mormon Church officially teaches that repentance includes never repeating a sin. Lesson 24 of the Aaronic Priesthood 1 teaches, “Put up the wordstrip, ‘Abandon our sins.’ Ask the young men what it means to abandon our sins. Help the young men understand that a truly repentant person will not repeat his sin.”

Did you catch that? Truly repentant people do not repeat sin. If that is true, then how does the large pitcher makes sense in the Mormon scheme of things? Simply put, the only way that the atonement of Jesus is ever applied to someone’s “bucket of awesome drops” is if they meet the condition of repentance. If a Mormon repeats a sin, any sin, then that must mean that they are not truly repentant and will not receive the benefit of the atonement.

I am so glad that the Biblical Jesus doesn’t wait for me to stop sinning before He applies His blood to cover my sin. The Bible says,

But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.  9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. 11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement. (Romans 5:8-11)

Take a good look at that passage. Let’s look at the end of it and then work our way backwards. I have received the atonement even while I was an enemy of God. I was reconciled to God, am justified by the blood of Jesus and saved from wrath. While I was still a sinner (enemies of God could rightly be called sinners), Jesus died for us and God gave me His love.

WOW! That sure beats any little drop of awesome I could possibly muster.

The Impossible Gospel of Mormonism InfoGraphic

I have a friend on Facebook who has recently come out of the Mormon Church and has come to Christ with his whole, immediate family. Bart Pascoal, was a faithful Latter-day Saint who was frustrated with his inability to live up to the impossible standards of the Mormon Church. This frustration led him down a dark path for many years. In the summer of 2010 he decided to get serious about his spirituality, but wanted to try a different approach. He and his wife read the New Testament together and soon realized that all they were taught by the Mormon Church about the sacrifice of Jesus was wrong. This led to much research.

Being a tech geek, Bart decided to create a web site,  www.afterallwecando.com as a place to consolidate his findings and be able to share them with his extended LDS family. Bart was a multi-generational Mormon on his mother’s side so he has lots of Mormon family. Due to his research, Bart came to the conclusion that the gospel of Mormonism just doesn’t work. After seeing one of our videos, he was able to put a name on what he had been trying to live; The Impossible Gospel of Mormonism.

Since becoming a Christian, Bart has used his tech skills in creating www.mormoninfographics.com. His latest infographic explains the confusing path of the impossible gospel of Mormonism. Click on the image to see more detail. An even larger image is available on Bart’s original blog post. That will help in being able to see the small text of the references.  In the words of Sandra Tanner of the Utah Lighthouse Ministry, “I think I need GPS for this.”

As always, feel free to leave your comment. We are particularly interested in what Mormons think of the infographic.

*** I’ve had a couple of requests for a pdf of the graphic since I posted this. Bart created one which you can download here.