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Manti 2007 Video

June 30, 2007 6:58 pm / 1 Comment / Keith

Check out a video about this year’s Manti trip. Aaron Shafovaloff of Mormonism Research Ministry put some pictures together with a song that ended up becoming the unofficial theme song for this year’s mission trip. Every night of the pageant the Christians would get together under a light pole, sing and pray before we hit the streets. Nearly every praise and prayer session ended with us singing this song. It is a very moving experience.

Posted in: Uncategorized / Tagged: Manti, Misson Trip, Mormonism

Front Sight Links

June 29, 2007 4:36 pm / Leave a Comment / Keith

Yes, we are back from our annual mission trip to Manti, Utah. I’ve got a ton of e-mail to wade through and have been trying to catch up, but one of them caught my eye and must be responded to on this blog. If you haven’t noticed already, there are a number of new links in the right side bar linking to stories about Front Sight Firearms Training Institute and its founder and director Dr. Ignatius Piazza.

I first heard about Front Sight by stumbling across the reality TV show, The Front Sight Challenge which appears on Versus. The show is on locally at 4:30 on Friday afternoons on channel 68. The show puts four shooters in competition against each other in three different courses of fire using four different type of guns, i.e. handgun, shotgun, rifle and machine gun. In every episode I have seen, two professionals (Police, SWAT or Military) are shooting alongside two Front Sight trained civilians. The shooter with the best final score wins the episode. What intrigued me most about the show is that the civilians are able to keep up with and even beat the professionals. Since I’ve missed a number of episodes due to our trip, I am not sure what the current tally is, but when I left, the civilians actually had a small lead.

One of the commercials during the show encourages viewers to go to the Front Sight web site and sign up to receive 15 e-mails that give you more information about the academy and also includes some tips on shooting and self-defense. I signed up for the 15 e-mails and chose to remain on the e-mail list in order to receive further offers and notices after the original 15. Boy, am I glad I did!

Dr. Piazza recently sent an e-mail that makes an extraordinary offer. For those who agree to post links to some articles about Front Sight on their blogs or web pages, Front Sight will send you a certificate that allows you to take one of five different four day courses. The courses are; Four Day Defensive Handgun, Four Day Tactical Shotgun, Four Day Practical Rifle, Four Day Select-Fire M16, or a Four Day Uzi Submachine Gun. As you probably guessed, I’m interested in the four day handgun class.

The deal is that I agree to keep the link on my blog for three years and in return, I will receive a certificate that has no expiration date and is fully transferable if for some reason I am not able to attend the class. The date for this offer expires June 30th. For those of you who may be interested in taking advantage of this offer yourself, I am sorry that I was not able to post this sooner. I have no idea when I’ll be able to attend my class, but I can’t wait!

Posted in: Uncategorized / Tagged: Front Sight, Gun

Manti Journal-6 2007

June 22, 2007 8:36 pm / 2 Comments / Keith

Tuesday, June 19th 2007

We had an interesting thing happen tonight. Becky was handing out tracts and saw a group of people walking towards her. She offered them a tract and it turns out that the group was from a Lutheran church in Denton Texas. The youth pastor, Ron Dupree, had heard me speak at a Lutheran workers conference at Concordia Lutheran Church some time last year. He was interested in Manti and e-mailed back and forth with Becky a couple of times about the possibility of them bringing a team up to Manti and having us do some training. Becky was freaked out when Ron greeted her by name, “Hello Becky.”

Totally unbeknownst to us, they had decided to come. There were a total of 10 people in their team. I thought it was funny that the first person they encountered on the street was Becky.

The beginning of my night was spent speaking with one of the local cops, Mark. I noticed that he had skateboard tape on the handle of his gun. Some times shooters will do that to help with their grip on the gun. Mark and I spoke about a lot of things, but not little of anything of a religious nature.

The only other conversation of note was with a guy named CJ. He was on the fringe of a small group of Mormons who were talking to a Christian from Salt Lake named Robert. The dude is a walking library. CJ was trying to jump into the conversation to break it up. I stood next to him and asked if he had a question for the guy speaking (Robert). He said that he really didn’t, he just wanted to make comments. I told him that I would like to hear his comments.

CJ was angry with Robert’s sign, Josephlied.com. He was telling me that we didn’t have an invitation to be there and that what we were doing was rude because we always started out with bad news. Mormons are always saying that we should just talk about what is positive in our religion without saying anything negative about theirs.

I pointed out that since this was a public event, we didn’t need an invitation to be there and then asked what if he served a mission. When he said he did, I asked him what the first lesson was about. He wasn’t sure what I was getting at so I reminded him about the apostasy. He then admitted that Mormonism would make no sense without the apostasy, i.e., the idea that all of Christendom was fallen. I asked him what the difference was in us starting out talking about the problems of Mormonism when they start out talking about the problems of Christianity. I think that was a new thought for him.

Later on in the conversation he said that he knows lots of Christians and that they always accuse Mormons of focusing on works and not grace. He tried to tall me that they believe in grace also. He then said, “We believe in grace too. Yes, we believe that you have to be baptized… and yes, we need to do temple works… and then there is performing the ordinances and keeping the commandments.” I interjected, “And all those other works.” He repeated, “And all those other works, but we really believe in grace!”

I thought it was very telling that he didn’t even see the problem with his last statement.

Posted in: Uncategorized / Tagged: Journal, Manti, Mormonism

Manti Journal-5 2007

June 21, 2007 8:13 pm / Leave a Comment / Keith

Saturday, June 16th 2007

Part 2
The days are already running together. I passed out a lot of tracts again and got into some short conversations, but nothing very memorable. Since I don’t remember much from Saturday, I thought I would just post some pictures of Becky, James and Rosanne from some of their conversations. I think their evenings went better than mine conversation-wise.
Pictures from left to right. Rosanne talking with a group of Mormons. Becky praising God. Rosanne’s conversation from another angle.

James helping Pastor Rodney with his internet connection at home. Rosanne cutting hair. James going through the Impossible Gospel with a group of LDS kids.
Posted in: Uncategorized / Tagged: Journal, Manti, Mormonism

Manti Journal-4 2007

June 19, 2007 9:48 pm / Leave a Comment / Keith

Extra

Before I get to Saturday part-2, I wanted to mention something that happened on Thursday night. Aaron Shafovaloff lives here in Utah and often street preaches. He will walk around with a sign and talk about how Joseph Smith had 30 something wives, how some of them were as young as 14 and others were already married to other Mormon men.

It usually doesn’t take long before a Mormon will challenge him on what he is saying and then he will direct the conversation onto more important subjects. He also carries a little folding step stool so that once a crowd gathers, he unfolds the stool and stands in the middle of the crowd and preaches. Some times Mormons will ask him questions and he will ask them to speak up so that everyone can hear them. He handles the crowd very well.

Early Thursday night the crowd was very small so Aaron started to preach. It wasn’t long before he had a small gathering around him and was going at it pretty good. There were four Christians on the street who were new to the Manti experience and they were obviously uncomfortable with the situation. Before Aaron started preaching, they had asked him about his “style” of preaching and he politely and Biblically defended it. Once Aaron started preaching, they asked Bill McKeever what he thought about Aaron’s preaching. Bill said, “Oh, Aaron? He’s with us at MRM.” The guys were surprised because Bill doesn’t preach like that himself and is one of the more respected ministry leaders.

After the evening was over, Aaron went into Miller’s Bakery (a popular after-pageant hangout) and ordered some food. As he was in line, the four guys came over to him and told him, “You were right, man. You were right.” These four guys basically apologized and expressed their appreciation for his ministry. They had the opportunity to watch him during the evening and see how he draws a crowd that gives other Christians an opportunity to peel people off of the crowd and talk in smaller groups. Aaron doesn’t yell for the sake of yelling, doesn’t insult the people and his compassion is obvious to see.
Posted in: Uncategorized / Tagged: Journal, Manti, Mormonism

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